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As European leaders struggle over how to deal with Russia, mixing sanctions with dialogue, we ask: What does the future hold for Russia, and for its opposition?</p> <p>With interviews from: Vladimir Milov, an aide to Alexei Navalny living in exile; Pyotr Tolstoy, deputy speaker of the State Duma, the lower house of the Russian parliament; Vladimir Kara-Murza, opposition politician; Danute Gailiene, professor of psychology at the University of Vilnius; Jacques Maire, MP in French parliament with President Emmanuel Macron’s “En Marche!” party; Viktor Muchnik, chief editor of independent Russian media outlet TV2 in Tomsk; Mikhail Khodorkovsky, exiled Russian businessman and opposition figure; Yekaterina Schulmann, political scientist specializing in Russia. 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